tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post882312378602484375..comments2023-05-22T10:42:54.046-04:00Comments on 6th or 7th: Blah blah blah votingEthanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07498712279382078624noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-19695567142347177732010-12-06T20:32:18.216-05:002010-12-06T20:32:18.216-05:00Those captchas are appropriate far too often for m...Those captchas are appropriate <i>far</i> too often for my liking.Ethanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07498712279382078624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-14168692916196896922010-12-06T18:17:56.035-05:002010-12-06T18:17:56.035-05:00Jack, that's a good analogy and humorously exp...Jack, that's a good analogy and humorously expressed. I like it. And by all means warn me about the spoon if you think what I'm headed for amounts to a hot shot. It's the last thing I need, on top of heartburn, and I do appreciate the concern.<br /><br />Serendipitous CAPTCHA "heatinas".Al Schumannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-30415333961833933732010-12-06T17:45:28.327-05:002010-12-06T17:45:28.327-05:00Al,
I'm a football fan, so I'm used to gi...Al,<br /><br />I'm a football fan, so I'm used to giving my energy and time into enterprises which never give back, but from which I age and get unmanageable heartburn.<br /><br />I'm not trying to take away another one of your spoonfuls, but I think cheering a sports team is far more productive than voting or campaigning.<br /><br />And I was a campaign mercenary for longer than I care to admit. I am somewhat responsible for one of the zealot assclowns NH just inflicted on the nation, going a long number of years back, because I got a hold of information which would have tanked his marriage and his career and I squashed it as a favor to the boyfriend of one of my employees (who was a CoS for another critter).Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-90535804990432974702010-12-06T17:19:45.461-05:002010-12-06T17:19:45.461-05:00I can't tempt anyone into a vote for Good King...I can't tempt anyone into a vote for Good King Nader? He would indeed be a good king, for as long as he lasted.<br /><br />But I do understand what you're getting at. The first problem is kings at all. The second is the farce of participating in what amounts to self-inflicted harm. The third is making a moral imperative of the first and second.Al Schumannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-76395776343243732052010-12-06T16:10:34.986-05:002010-12-06T16:10:34.986-05:00Lauren's smarter than we give her credit for.
...Lauren's smarter than we give her credit for.<br /><br />Interesting points about why Nader is so detested, Al, though I do tend to agree with Jack about his overall significance. Still, I am a fan of anyone who singlehandedly proves the bulk of liberals to be massive hypocrites, so good for him!Ethanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07498712279382078624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-76869743511221116442010-12-06T12:02:03.326-05:002010-12-06T12:02:03.326-05:00The problem with Nader is the problem with voting....The problem with Nader is the problem with voting. Nader might push the buttons and piss off the legacy gliberals, but he has put thirty years of energy into getting people to vote.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-24093211855135758852010-12-06T10:18:15.615-05:002010-12-06T10:18:15.615-05:00Nader pushes all the right liberal buttons, includ...Nader pushes all the right liberal buttons, including and especially the merit button. <br /><br />I think that one is the button that triggers the recourse to limping <i>post hoc</i> denunciations. In notional liberal terms, he's made all the right moves and been doing all the right things for decades. If they really believed in reformism as a political principle, and were willing to give him the support they'll give any hack Democrat, he could do quite a bit. <br /><br />No wonder they hate him so. There's nothing worse than someone whose existence indicts an entire tribe.<br /><br />Digressing, Lauren tells me she's given COO the heave-ho and is now dating TOTCO. A wise decision, by my way of thinking. The presumptuousness and fatuity, not to mention the shitty luggage, spell disaster for stable relationships.Al Schumannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-62272035010213394782010-12-06T09:58:06.977-05:002010-12-06T09:58:06.977-05:00augustus818: Hah, sounds familiar. What's amaz...augustus818: Hah, sounds familiar. What's amazing is when you can point out concrete things that people do aside from voting that make a difference, and people still stick with the "if you're not voting, you're not doing anything" line.<br /><br />Peter is exactly right when he says <i>Admonishing people to vote (for an approved Democrat or Republican) in this country is merely another tool to keep the public depoliticized.</i> And that's exactly what we're seeing in conversations like the ones augustus and I have had.<br /><br />Thanks also, Peter, for the Carlin link. He's not always my favorite (I have some quibbles even with the opening of his bit here), but he's often spot-on, and it's always nice to see people who didn't compromise their message as they became older and more established.<br /><br />coach outlet, why do you presume to speak for Lauren? If she was really excited about the blog, she can tell me herself. I'm inclined to believe your competitor here.<br /><br />AlanSmithee, exactly (although I don't honestly know much about the specifics of the history; like I said, I don't have a dog in the race and frankly don't much care for the race at all). I just love the whole indignantly sputtering pose of "Well, I've passively received information about all of <i>Obama's</i> activities for the past four years. Certainly can't say that about Nader! What an attention hog."Ethanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07498712279382078624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-82641113257828412112010-12-06T08:27:54.387-05:002010-12-06T08:27:54.387-05:00That "Nader does nothing between elections&qu...That "Nader does nothing between elections" is a pathetic ancient canard left over from butthurt Koswhack whining about the 2000 election. No one, repeat NO ONE did more to build the Green Party from '96 - '00 than Ralph Nader. That fact that the DNC had to fund shills like Benjamin & Cobb to hijack the '04 convention shows how worried they really were about Nader.AlanSmitheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14302036848656627300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-30518763107375984162010-12-05T22:05:28.624-05:002010-12-05T22:05:28.624-05:00This is just in time! I wanted to warn you about t...This is just in time! I wanted to warn you about the impostor "coach outlet online". He's a thanksralphing, cancer-causing, servility-endorsing thug. Buy the real product. Buy One True brand, the only luggage that carries itself.the one true coach outletnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-12541907903173279692010-12-05T20:40:49.066-05:002010-12-05T20:40:49.066-05:00This is a bit late, but I wanted to thank you for ...This is a bit late, but I wanted to thank you for your kind words. Working in retail and interacting with a wide variety of customers and visitors can have it's ups and downs, but getting an appreciation such as this makes me feel good about what I do. Lauren and I were excited about the blog. It really shows customer appreciation. Thank you again.coach outlet onlinehttp://www.coachoutletstoresonline.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-29567524535482755492010-12-05T20:37:30.946-05:002010-12-05T20:37:30.946-05:00I'm with George Carlin, if you vote you have n...I'm with George Carlin, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk" rel="nofollow">if you vote you have no right to complain </a>.<br /><br />Anyway--it's probably not worth mentioning--what a sham voting is. In midterms the incumbent reelection rate is 80%, if not higher and turn out is low compared to countries where people really have something worth voting for...say, Venezuela. Admonishing people to vote (for an approved Democrat or Republican) in this country is merely another tool to keep the public depoliticized.<br /><br />By the way, "the Candidate", which astutely illustrates how the election process works--how it's really a marketing campaign--is currently on netflixPeter Wardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-36620232185198062142010-12-05T16:51:41.644-05:002010-12-05T16:51:41.644-05:00I just had this exact same argument with my girlfr...I just had this exact same argument with my girlfriend's mother not too long ago. Well it really wasn't much of an argument. It was more of her saying the exact same thing, "If you don't vote you have no right to complain. All non-voters are APATHETIC." to which I merely responded with, "There are many reasons why people don't vote. Most do not out of anger or disillusionment with the system among a myriad of other not so distinct reasons. Quite the opposite of apathy though." Which predictably, went right through one ear and out the other, to which she responded with, "Either way you have no right to complain if you did not vote." Thus proving the moral you have eloquently laid out.augustus818noreply@blogger.com