tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post2566797887014184884..comments2023-05-22T10:42:54.046-04:00Comments on 6th or 7th: LogicEthanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07498712279382078624noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-61497111962667246832011-01-31T23:10:24.743-05:002011-01-31T23:10:24.743-05:00DNC, hah! I kind of have a feeling that didn't...DNC, hah! I kind of have a feeling that didn't actually happen (too good to be true, among other things), but man, what a great story.<br /><br />Peter, didn't you know? Deciding who's in charge of the machine is the only thing the masses care about. Duh. Hence the clamoring for a VP that drip mentioned.<br /><br />Hah, the implicit contrasting of "civil society" with "political activists" had actually passed me by until you pointed it out.Ethanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07498712279382078624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-28877934120351742662011-01-31T22:25:40.470-05:002011-01-31T22:25:40.470-05:00...where you have one election 30 years ago and th...<i>...where you have one election 30 years ago and then the people just keep staying in power and become less and less responsive to their people...</i><br />As if the frequency of elections is proportional to the degree to which a state does what its people wants rather than what its ruling establishment wants. I.e., the degree to which the "mob" really runs society.<br /><br />It's also amusing the Mubarak is first and the activists last among those that ought to be part of the "dialogue"..."civil society" thrown in the middle for good measures--you known, those who quietly collaborate in their own exploitation.Peter Wardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-27944374853381729702011-01-31T17:12:36.645-05:002011-01-31T17:12:36.645-05:00If only all of Rome had just one neck.
I also lov...If only all of Rome had just one neck.<br /><br />I also love Caligula. There's a great (possibly apocryphal) story about John Gielgud seeing the uncut version for the first time in the theater. He sat behind two old ladies who had clearly just come to see a nice historical epic with John Gielgud and Peter O'Toole. When the film ended, Gielgud followed the ladies out of the theater and overheard one of them remark, "Well that was $7 worth."Dog's New Clothesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-65937801827398530672011-01-31T16:42:01.032-05:002011-01-31T16:42:01.032-05:00drip, I first want to congratulate you on the exce...drip, I first want to congratulate you on the excellence of this sentence: <i>Ordinarily I would avoid her to preserve my health, but to lift, I had to listen.</i><br /><br />Also, hilarious to suggest that a) any significant number of people anywhere care if their country has, specifically, a vice-president, b) appointing <i>Suleiman</i> of all people to that position is doing what the people want, and c) that taking 30 years to do something as simple as making an appointment represents some kind of functioning system.<br /><br />bonobo, I didn't see IOZ's post until after you commented, though I did see JR's post that it's responding to. I admit to a fascination with the psychology of these monsters, but as IOZ and JR both point out, in effect what they believe doesn't particularly <i>matter</i> in any concrete way. To engage in a bit of sports spectatorship, though, I think I'm with you on Clinton. She strikes me as genuinely brilliant in her way (unlike Obama, who always just comes off as such a doofus), and to continue using this specific case to discuss the matter, I find it next to impossible to believe that she could be unaware of the parallel.<br /><br />Hell, knowing as she must the obsequiousness of the media, she may have been taking advantage of her sure knowledge that she wouldn't be questioned on the matter to engage in what she thought of as an inside joke of sorts.<br /><br />For the record, I absolutely love <i>Caligula</i>. About 90% unironically.<br /><br />David, hah, you just reminded me of Pelosi being outraged by the presence of antiwar protesters near her house a few years back. And, yeah, good point--that and all the talk of the "legitimate" claims of the protesters are pretty telling. Sure, you can protest what your government is doing--but your government and that of the US get to decide both how you do it and what elements of your protest are legitimate.Ethanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07498712279382078624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-87868046590610695252011-01-31T12:21:45.574-05:002011-01-31T12:21:45.574-05:00they're always imploring protesters to do thin...<i>they're always imploring protesters to do things "The Right Way!", which is defined as working within the system that has marginalized them.</i><br /><br />Well, how else will they get to a place that assures supplication to Israel and the United States? Hillary is only concerned with those outcomes. She doesn't give a fuck about the method.bonobonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-79624251372420500592011-01-31T12:02:48.010-05:002011-01-31T12:02:48.010-05:00WHat I find most telling about Hillary's (and ...WHat I find most telling about Hillary's (and most others) statements is that they're always imploring protesters to do things "The Right Way!", which is defined as working within the system that has marginalized them.<br /><br />The idea of the peasants collectively telling Mubarak " Get the fuck out. We're not asking." must terrify them.Davidhttp://undistinguishedlife.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-53280614146522874962011-01-31T11:49:25.668-05:002011-01-31T11:49:25.668-05:00It's funny that this post coincides with one o...It's funny that this post coincides with one over at IOZ's place about whether these people believe their own bullshit. In his post, IOZ hints that Hillary may be among those who don't and I think I agree. <br /><br />However, it's hard to imagine that a person as vain as Hillary would say anything this audaciously clueless and hypocritical with any kind of self-awareness at all. <br /><br />Nice slice of British ham there from McDowell. If only our sociopaths were so colorful.bonobonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8981856246989013843.post-46149527177119213262011-01-31T03:33:18.752-05:002011-01-31T03:33:18.752-05:00It really is hard to despise the shithead who migh...It really is hard to despise the shithead who might have done a lot of bad things more than the shithead who is actually doing bad things, but Hillary Clinton almost does it for me. I was at the gym yesterday morning and she was on the toob talking. Ordinarily I would avoid her to preserve my health, but to lift, I had to listen. I heard her say something to the effect that the US had been asking Mubarak for a vice-president for 30 years and only got one last week. Progress in the Arab world is slow, until it isn't, eh Hil?<br /><br />dripAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com